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.::Faith-ing

Posted in church, Ministry, youth ministry on February 1, 2012 by Walter

My good friend, Steve Argue, wrote an excellent post in this week’s Sticky Faith blog on Faith-ing…looking at faith as a verb instead of just a noun.  He says this:

“The downside to thinking about faith only as noun is that it can be viewed as a commodity one possesses. It becomes a static “thing” that, once acquired, is placed, even displayed in a prominent place in one’s life, often never to be touched again. Noun-faith assumptions reveal themselves when people are asked about their faith and they say that they “accepted Jesus in the 4th grade,” or that that they’re qualified to teach Sunday school because they’ve “been a Christian for ten years.”

I think he nails some of the shortcomings of just looking at faith as a noun.

“BUT If we think of faith as a verb, “Faith is also a verb, and as a verb is more associated with spiritual formation. It expresses believing and trusting in someone/something (John 3:16); is actively worked out (Philippians 2:12); is pursued (1 Timothy 6:11); and can be maturing (Hebrews 6:1).

At its very elemental level, faith as a verb is not a just Christian thing, it’s a human thing that people act upon. 1  Faith is the way human beings make sense of their world. People make meaning in order to connect and hold together the barrage of information they are continually learning and experiencing.”

So what are some of the ramifications of teaching and training our students to faith?  Here are a few:

  • Faith-ing is ACTIVE.  The church will need to let them USE their faith instead of just be spectators.  This means leadership enabling and equipping and sending.
  • Faith-ing is DANGEROUS.  If we truly make room for students to live out their faith, they will begin to share what they have with others, they will want to rech out the the disenfranchised, they will want to conquer poverty and distribute justice.
  • Faith-ing is RISKY.  This means the role of the the minister becomes more of equipping “his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up” (Eph 4:12) Which means less time for us to be in the spotlight and more time for others to contribute their gifts to the body.  The church will need to shift paradigms from minister as subcontracted laborer to minister as equipper/coach/mentor.
Personally, I think these consequences this shirt present are exciting for the church.

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.::Last Day for Early Registration for 3 Stories of YM

Posted in Life, Ministry, story, Theology, youth ministry on February 1, 2012 by Walter

Today is the last day to get the early registration rate for Lipscomb’s “Three Stories of Youth Ministry” event being held, Thursday, March 1 from 9:00-4:00.  We already have over 60 people registered from seven different states who will be here.

This is going to be a day where you come away with tools that will help you teach the Bible better, know yourself better, and lead your ministry better.

Remember you get one FREE registration for every three people from the same ministry!

A continental breakfast and lunch is included in your registration fee.

There ARE scholarships available, just e-mail walter.surdacki@lipscomb.edu for information.

You will not regret making the time to be here.

CLICK HERE FOR REGISTRATION INFO:  http://www.lipscomb.edu/Bible/YM-Three-Stories-2012

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.::Discovery as Faith Journey

Posted in adolescence, church, Life, Ministry, Teaching, Theology, youth ministry with tags , , , , , , on January 25, 2012 by Walter


“People are better persuaded by the reasons they themselves discover than by those which have come into the mind of others.”

–Blaise Pascal

I came across this quote during a class on mediation I am taking this semester.  The goal of mediation it to help two parties who are in conflict come to a decision or solution on their own terms as opposed to having a third party make the decision for them.  In other words, a mediator is there to help them discover information rather the tell them what they need to know.  This got me thinking about how youth ministers and parents can become more of trail guides for teens and less of indoctrinators?

Again, this is an integral part of the adolescent process where students need to know that their choices matter.  Discovery for a teen gives them and their lives meaning.  You have heard the old adage, “You can lead a horse to water . . . but you can’t make them drink.”  As we work with teens we do need to give them tools and opportunities to discover for themselves.  Truth be told, I much prefer to tell teens what I think they need to hear rather than give them the freedom to discover truth for themselves . . . after all aren’t I the expert?(sarcasm)

I think this concept has several applications in the way we might do ministry:

  • Let students have substantive opportunities to learn Truth for themselves:  ALL of the best research out there* that is asking why young adults leave church or what keeps teens in the faith point to the fact of whether or not they had a safe environment to express doubt.  Do our ministries provide sanctuary where teens are allowed to express doubt and differing opinions on faith, God’s existence, sex, social justice, poverty, homosexuality, and other dangerous topics?  Another way of asking this question is to answer, “What are the topics that are ‘off limits’ in our church?”–Let’s talk about those. . . not to be controversial, but to give voice to those issues that are probably on the hearts and minds of our young people.
  • Do students leave our teaching with more Answers or more Questions?  I believe a good education gives you the tools to ask more and better questions rather than simply delivering the answer.  ”The Bible says is, I believe it, That settles it.”  Is an attitude we may need to depart from in order to give our students the space and ability to ask difficult questions of faith, religion, the Biblical text, and more.  What kinds of tools are we giving our students that allow them to investigate and journey in their faith that will guide them to answers as opposed to spoon-feeding them with answers?
  • Can we say “I don’t know”?  Is our own faith as leaders big enough to have the confidence to appropriately express our own doubts and still allow God to reign?  Do we have to have an answer for everyquestion that comes up or can we simply say, “I don’t know.”  I am not professing allegiance to a blind, uninformed faith.  Rather, I think being able to say, “I don’t have every answer, but I am still searching” is far more authentic and communicates Truth better than a weakly formed, proof-texted apologetic.  Look at Paul’s own struggles with doubt in Romans 7.  Surely, if Paul is wrestling with these issues at the end of his ministry, surely we have the freedom (or necessity) to have our own doubts?

Those are just a few ideas…any others?  I’d love to hear your ideas in the comments section…

*For more see Sticky Faith by Kara Powell, Soul Searching by Christian Smith, You Lost Me by Dave Kinnaman.

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.::Passing the Baton

Posted in adolescence, church, Ministry, Teaching, Theology, youth ministry on January 20, 2012 by Walter

In Scarsdale, NY a school administrative team handed over the responsibility to ensure that students arrived at prom safe and sober.  This approach seemed successful and the senior class president noted, “‘For [students] to take the reins [giving them] adult responsibility.’  When adults show youth they care about their ideas and provide them with opportunities to voice them, it sends a powerful message that youth are valued.”*

So true.

When I think of the traditional, One-Eared Mickey Mouse approach to youth ministry, I fear that we have squelched the ever important voice of teens and sent the message to them that says, “Your ideas and your input are not that important.”  In what arenas in our faith communities does the WHOLE CHURCH have the opportunity for students to have responsibility, provide input into programming, share their ideas on faith, give feedback, or to simply have their voices heard?  Most of what I have seen have delegated that kind of input, responsibility and feedback solely to the youth ministry.  Based on who I see utilized in our corporate assemblies and committees, I fear we have sent a message that says, “We’ll listen to you once you are married, have a job and have a child.”

This is good news!  Students WANT responsibility!  They WANT their voices heard!  They WANT to participate!  They know that faith and God are vital and important and sacred and they want to contribute to the work of the Kingdom of God!  They have heard and seen what God can do and want to share in that.

How might we pass the baton of responsibility over to our teens?  What might be some baby steps that we take to train, equip and then UTILIZE teens in the larger conversation of faith in our churches?

Here are a few ideas to get the discussion kickstarted:

  • Have students contribute to all aspects of worship from worship team to reading scripture to leading communion thoughts. (Not every time, and not just on “youth sunday” but regularly to develop a culture that students are a part of THIS body and THE Body of Christ).
  • Have students part of any or all committees as appropriate.  Let them have a voice in some of the important church decisions that are made.  You never know, students may provide insight or a perspective on an issue, a building plan, a mission committee, etc. that no one else can provide.
  • Release students to lead and serve.  I used to fight against students being a part of other ministries in church like Children’s Ministry, Worship Team, etc. because I was selfish and wanted them in MY ministry.  I realized that I had to release them to let God work through them in the areas where they were being called.  I had to really let go and let other ministreis benefit and learn from them.
  • Preach.   What if we gave students who have a word or something insightful to share a brief sermonette as part of worship?  You don’t have to give up the entire sermon over to a teen, just 2-3 minutes from them might be the most powerful meesage some hear that day.
  • Testimony.  One of the best things we would do when we had “Youth Sunday” was to let students share what God had been doing in their lives.  This proved to be extremely powerful and encouraging to the whole congregation.  Sooooo . . . Why not do this regularly as part of worship where the congregation hears a brief testimony from youth, senior saints, young marrieds, old singles, etc
Just remember, to pass a baton . . . we need to do two things:  
1. Hand them a Baton
2. We need to let go of it.  
* Nichols, Sharon Lynn., and Thomas L. Good. “9 A Small-Wins Approach.” America’s Teenagers–myths and Realities: Media Images, Schooling, and the Social Costs of Careless Indifference. Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004. 268.

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.::Disconnection & the STRENGTHS of Teen Faith

Posted in adolescence, church, Ministry, Parenting Teens, Theology, youth ministry on January 17, 2012 by Walter


As we watch young people leave church in record numbers, there is a lot of despair and worry over losing the next generation in the faith.  Dave Kinnaman’s latest book, You Lost Me, sheds light on six different areas in church community that shows where young people are either disillusioned or underserved in their search for faith by faith communities.  Rather than being dismayed over the statistics, perhaps we might actually be encouraged by what their exodus teach us.

For example, one of the reasons the Barna research shows why young adults are leaving church is that faith communities are OVERPROTECTIVE.  One student notes that churches “demonize everything outside the church.”  The problem with this is that our teens are called to live IN this world.  There’s plenty in culture that points to God, if we’re we have the courage to look at it.  Many use lyrics from bands, movie clips, and references to sport in teaching.  This ought to help our students develop discernment rather than separation, and enjoyment rather than fear.  Didn’t Paul even quote the philosophers of his age that had pointed to Truth in some of their teachings?  I hear young people simply saying, “TRUST US.”  They are saying, Give us some credit to recognize what is good and what isn’t. Trust that you have done a good enough job raising us.” Another way of saying this is perhaps we need to let our young people become “free range Christians.”

Second, young people are saying what is being offered in our faith communities, youth groups, churches is simply TOO SHALLOW.  Early in my youth ministry I grew more and more frustrated and youth curriculum that dealt very little with the text and have an abundance of games, ice breakers and time wasters.  What I hear young people saying in this area is that they want DEPTH.  They KNOW the church has something powerful, true and deep to offer and they WANT it!  They want to dive into the depths of scripture and not just play silly games on Sunday morning.  This is GOOD NEWS!  Young people want depth & authenticity over façades & shallowness.

Third, they see faith communities as ANTISCIENCE.  We often forget that today’s young person is a digital native.  They never knew of a world without cell phones, the internet, video games, and most things digital.  Many of our faith communities have often looked to the Bible as a science text and placed upon the text claims it never makes for itself.  Rather than using the Bible to attack science, creation, physics, etc., perhaps we can even LEARN FROM THEM as to how to look at science through the lens of faith.

Fourth, they see the church as REPRESSIVE.  I was raised Catholic and went to church all through high school.  I switched to a Restoration Mvmt church when I was 18.  I don’t remember ANY sermons, Bible classes, or lessons on sex, sexuality or anything in that arena in a church setting.  However, we read in Genesis 2 that God commands Adam and Eve to “be fruitful and multiply.”  We condemn people when they have premarital sex or extramarital sex.  But isn’t it ironic that we don’t teach them God original intent for sex beyond, “Don’t do it out of marriage.”  What I hear students saying is “Teach me what God’s designe for sex and sexuality is!”  I believe that young people are begging for this teaching because the sex messages they are being inundated with through the media and the halls of school doesn’t ring as truth and they want to know the Truth about sex and sexuality.  This is GOOD NEWS!

Fifth, they are leaving because they see the church as EXCLUSIVE.  They read about Jesus being welcoming to the lepers, tax collectors, Samaritan woman, prostitutes, etc. and then watch and listen the way some of our communities talk about or treat people of a different political belief, denomination, socio-ethnic background, etc.  I hear that students want to SHARE GOSPEL with those Jesus would want to share it with.

Lastly, they leave because the church communities they are a part of are DOUBTLESS.  In other words, they are so sure of their faith there is no room for doubt.  Study after study has confirmed that if a young person has a space where they are free to present doubt and allow themselves to ask questions of doubt, then their chances for staying in faith rise significantly.  In those churches where they are not free to explore doubt this kills their desire to stay in that community.  Today’s teens live in such a complex and complicated world that doubt is perhaps a daily occurrence.  There are so many situations where teens must have a place to be free to ask, “Is God real?”  When I look at Romans 7, I see Paul wrestling with doubt for everyone in the Roman church to see.  I hear young people saying, they want a real, authentic, forged, smelted, tested and tried faith.  A faith that is small/big enough to ask the difficult questions.  They are striving towards a faith than can ENDURE.

So let us see the cup as half full as we hear these reasons why young people are leaving organized faith communities.  Let us not think they are all going to hell in a hand basket.  Perhaps many of them continue to live out their faith absent from traditional faith communities.  But let us also use these as a wake up call for our faith communities that have played it too safe or presented a gospel that is too small.

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.::Facebook and Grades

Posted in adolescence, Ministry, Parenting Teens, Teaching, Technology, what matters on January 13, 2012 by Walter

I came across the following infographic today and I found it to reinforce a few things about technology and the soul of the teenager.  (You can click on it to be able to zoo in on it if you can’t read it.):

1.  Teenagers gain a significant amount of affirmation from Facebook.  Imagine every notification badge or “Like” or comment on a wall as a way a teen hears, “I care about you” or “You are important to me.”  The same is true about every text message.  It is a digital hug or high five from a friend.  This feeds and nourishes the soul.  This infographic shows that teens on average go on to Facebook 6 times a day to get that affirmation.  The question remains as to whether or not it is enough . . .

2.  Teens find significance and empowerment online.  This is a spiritual quest as well.  As they post to Facebook Your Tube and Twitter, they instantly become participants in something larger than themselves.  As you look at the pie graphs about sharing links and commenting, this is what that behavior is all about.  This is spiritual at its core as it is vocational . . . when they comment and share links, teens are creating something bigger than themselves.   This is vital to a teen’s struggle through adolescence where one of the main questions they must answer is “Do I and my choices matter?”  Participating online helps them achieve some of this significance.

3.  Facebook is the new “Cheers.”  Remember the theme song for the old 80′s sitcom, “Cheers” that preached, “Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name.”  Here is a space for a teen who feels all alone, isolated and lonely to find others who knows what it is like to be them.  When I was growing up in the 70s-80s, if there wasn’t anyone else like me at my school, I was stuck.  Facebook and tech lets me be connected to others who are like me.  It may actually help squelch that loneliness in many teens.

4.  Technology is NOT evil.  We can make is a scapegoat for bad grades, poor performance, etc. but we cannot.  As this research shows, you can’t use it to correlate between time spent online and bad grades for most students.  Our use of tech may or may not be healthy, productive or even good.  For example, when a teen slams a peer on Facebook or Twitter, then technology’s virtues or vices becomes all about how we use it.  So we might not want to throw Facebook out with the bathwater, but we may want to help teens keep some sort of daily and weekly Tech Sabbaths. 

Yes, the 106 minutes that a teen spend on Facebook should be concerning to parents, teachers, youth ministers, coaches, etc. but let us be cautious to condemn Facebook and technology as being the downfall of civilization and socialization as we know it.

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.::Canon Within a Canon

Posted in adolescence, church, disciplines, Ministry, spiritual disciplines, youth ministry on January 11, 2012 by Walter

About a year ago, I was fortunate to be in a short term study with NT scholar Amy Jill Levine. She made a really interesting observation where she said, “We all operate with our canons within the canon.”. What she means is that we all pick and choose which parts of scripture are weightier and which don’t merit much study,thought, or reflection in our faith traditions.

My experience in the Churches of Christ has shown that we have traditionally spent more time with Paul and Jesus (in that order) than we have with the Gospels, the Prophets, Genesis, Revelation, well this list goes on and on. Tony Campolo makes the observation that for many evangelicals, we look at Jesus through the lens of Paul.  When we do this, our vision is skewed and tainted with legalism as we see Jesus through the ethical codes and legislation of Pauline writing.  He suggests that Catholics look at Paul through the lens of Jesus.  When we do this, then the ethical codes of Paul are given a much better context to accept those teachings.  Campolo had a good Catholic friend of his observe that when you look at Jesus through the lens of Paul you get televangelists, when you look Paul through the lens of Jesus you get Mother Teresa.  While this may not be completely accurate and even a bit unfair, there is a valid point worth considering.

I want to propose that our canon within the canon has resulted in a more legalistic view of Jesus than is possibly warranted or even accurate.  When we spend soooo much time looking at Paul’s ethical codes for holy living WITHOUT the context of JEsus, Jesus’s life, Jesus’s teachings, and JEsus’s character, it is far too easy to condense the christian life to a list of rules and regulations and faith becomes formulaic (See The Prayer of Jabez craze from a few years back).

For example, I have sat through far more classes and sermons on Colossians 3 that detail the list of rules for holy living than I have the Christ hymn in Colossians 1 that gives us the lens to understand.  If I am honest, I have look at teens far more with the lens of Colossians 3 and measured a student’s spiritual growth based on whether or not they they were students of “Anger, sexual immorality, lust, greed. etc.” then to really look deeper and see if they exhibited the character and qualities of Jesus as described in Col 1.

I have been struggling a lot with performance-based faith lately.  Donald Miller suggests that the two words that kill the human soul the fastest are: “Ought To.”I reflect on those externals that I used to subject my youth group students to . . . externals like:

  • attendance-how often are they at youth group and not “forsaking the assembly
  • quite time devotion-how often are kids diving in the word and journaling.
  • participation-are they at everything we are doing in youth group?
  •  bringing their Bibles-You know that “good Christians” bring their Bible to church
  • sacrificing a game to attend a retreat-this is almost the mark of martyrdom.

Don’t misunderstand me.  These things are not bad things.  However, when we use them as measuring sticks for faith and devotion, we are probably measuring the wrong things.  When we put these things up are the measuring sticks for faith, we put artificial hoops up for our students to jump through.

I would rather we find ways to see Jesus living IN and THROUGH our students.  How might we see Jesus living in our students?  Challenging our students?  I think the only way we can do this is to SPEND TIME getting to KNOW our students.  Sitting down with them over coffee. Listening to them articulate their faith, talking about Jesus, hearing their perspective on faith.

In order for us to know what to look for and listen for, we must spend more time in the Gospels AND the prophets AND the rest of the Canon of Scripture.  But let’s at least spend some time in our Sunday morning curriculum or small group times looking just at Jesus.  Luther sought for sola fide.  Perhaps we can strive for sola Jesus . . . at least for just a season this year.

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.::Teens Marketing Themselves

Posted in adolescence, Ministry, Parenting Teens, Theology, youth ministry with tags , , , on December 15, 2011 by Walter

Recently I was talking with bunch of parents of teens where we were talking about the biggest sexual temptations that our teens are/will be facing.  In the midst of the discussion, one of the parents used the term “marketing” in reference to the ways it seems teen girls have to present themselves to the opposite sex in order to gain any modicum of attention.

I found that term “marketing” particularly captivating as it rang hauntingly true.  In the adolescent world, it does seem like there is fierce competition for another’s attention.  Students in their quest for identity send themselves down a path to doing/wearing/trying almost anything just to get noticed.  Some parents shared stories of photo after photo they have seen on Facebook of scantily clad girls that are up there for all the world to see.  Others commiserated over the different wardrobe battles they have to endure in order to get out of the mall without needing stitches.

On the other end of the gender aisle, Dads worry about the ease at which pornography is accessible for their sons and what that kind of marketing is doing to their boys perception of reality, personhood, and truth.  We aren’t even going near the age at which so many of the guys I talk to have seen performance enhancing drugs and steroids in the locker room in an attempt to get noticed on the field.

It seems like every where a teen turns there are so many gimmicks that students resort to in order to try to “market” themselves and stand out in a crowd.

So what is a parent, coach, youth worker, teacher, to do?

Than answer is almost too simple . . . notice them NOW.

SEE the teens around you and say “Hi.” Trust me, they are there, you jsut maight not have seen them.

Don’t just notice kids who ACHIEVE (QBs, STraight A Students, Cheerleader, Soloists, Starting Forward, etc.) . . . notice the introvert in the corner and sit with them.

Don’t just hang out with the “pretty kids” . . . didn’t we get our fill of that kind of behavior in high school?

Find those kids who ARE trying to hide because they just do not know how to market themselves or got too tired trying to play that marketing game . . . and give them the time of day.

Talk WITH teens, not just TO them.  Learn who they are, What makes them tick? What did they do last weekend? What’s their favorite band on their iPod? Ask them what movie you should get off Netflix and Why?

Tell them some stories from your life because, believe it or not, they want to know you too!  (more on that in future blogs)

Praise a kid just for EXISTING not for performance . . . Jesus did that kind of thing all the time, didn’t he?

WARNING:  This WILL be awkward at moments!  You will blow it from time to time.  But I guarantee that it WILL make a difference.  The results most certainly will not be immediate, but they will be eternal.

This is how we begin to be the hands and feet of Jesus and start to bring down the Madison Ave lie factory that have told our young people they aren’t good enough to the point they have felt the need to start these mini-marketing campaigns of their own.

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.::Teaching THE Story

Posted in adolescence, church, Ministry, story, Teaching, youth ministry with tags , , , , on December 14, 2011 by Walter

We invite you to bring your team to Nashville, TN on Thursday, March 1st, 2012 to join Youth Ministry Leaders from all over the Southeast who will gather at Lipscomb University to learn, train and think about “The Three Stories of Youth Ministry.”

One of our featured speakers will be Michael Novelli, author of “Shaped By The Story.”  Michael will teach and train your team through HOW to teach the Bible narratively in a way that will ENGAGE your students with the Story of God.  He will give you dozens of practical ideas that will help your students not only LEARN the Story of God, but be able to EXPERIENCE it, KNOW it, TELL it and SEE THEMSELVES in it.

After ten years in youth ministry, Michael Novelli felt like he had tried everything to help his students connect with the Bible. Then, a missionary introduced him to a unique, ancient way to engage people with the Bible through story. Michael learned the art of “Storying,” a sequential telling of Bible stories followed by a time of creative retelling and in-depth dialogue. God used this process to completely transform his youth group as they found themselves experiencing God in a whole new way. For several years Michael has been developing narratives and training to help others discover the art of “Storying,” a dialogical approach to Bible learning.

CLICK HERE for more info and to register your team now.

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.::From Postmodernity to Participatory

Posted in adolescence, church, Ministry, spiritual disciplines, Theology with tags , , , on December 12, 2011 by Walter

I came across this powerful quote today:

“The shift from postmodernity to participatory culture means people find their identity through what they create as opposed to maybe what they consume. … Our churches are still structured in such a way that we do it to them, not inviting them to create worship with us. So, if that’s the case, there’s really no space for people who’ve been formed by our participatory culture in our churches.”

–Ryan Bolger, Fuller Seminary

In other words, what Bolger is saying is that if you are under 45, there really is no room for you in church.  In much of my research about adolescents, culture, technology and worship, there is an overwhelming pile of truth to this statement.  We have heard the sayings, “Church is what you are, not what you do.”  ”You can’t go to church ’cause the church is you.”  Bolger is advocating that we invite people IN to worship.  Reggie Joiner says we need to stop being cruise directors that entertain our clientele and start becoming adventure guides that expect people to join in the journey.

What Bolger is advocating for, and I think he has hit a resounding chord of truth, is that we need to be less performance driven in our corporate worship and more invitational active.  Instead of letting people be passive spectators, we much call them to be active participants.  They cannot warm a pew for an hour to and hour and a half on a Sunday.

The picture we get in Acts 2 is a picture of EVERYONE participating in worship.  So I started thinking, “What if?”  What if we started a participatory worship culture in our traditionally spectator/consumer churches?  I am just spitballing here so bear with me:

  • What if? Instead of a sermon, we had 20 minutes of lectio divina and then had a roaming microphone to let people share what they heard in the passage?
  • What if? Instead of one person praying for everyone in the room, that one person moderated a time where people break into groups of 3 and 4 and pray FOR and WITH each other?
  • What might communion that is participatory look like?
  • How about singing and song leading?  What if we let go of that and handed it back to the people? (radical . . . I know)
  • What if instead of sitting in a room for an hour and a half one Sunday, we all meet together for 5 mins and then go serve in our communities as our worship and BE Jesus to our neighbors?
  • What if we all read the morning scripture out loud at the same time (in different translations)?
  • What if offering was also an open mike time where people talked about how they would offer their lives up to their neighbors, co workers, teammates, classmates, etc. that week?
  • What if INSTEAD of taking an offering, we called people to take what they were about to give and use it in their world to make a difference that week ? (Now I’m just being crazy)
Can you imagine the stories this could/could make?
Can imagine what you would learn from our teens as we watched them participate?
What would our teens learn from their parents as they watched them participate?
Can you see how messy this would be?  How many angry e-mails would people send?
Can you see all the lessons on patience and forbearance we would learn? (or need to learn?)
How much fun and frustration would this cause?
What would bother you the most in all of this?
I get that these ideas might just make some people go nuclear.  But I also get that it is going to take some churches a nuclear explosion to actually begin being the church God has called them to be in their neighborhoods.
Imagine the ownership people would begin to take in the Kingdom of God!

This would be FUN!

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